1,896,552, 3,448,276 I turned the log over, picked up the W49 and finished chopping through the log in eight minutes. Thanks! Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:47 am, Post The sheath for this knife is also unique in my opinion. Original Price $188.24 Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife Check Price. Although it was mainly used and marketed as a hunting knife, its origins were that of a weapon. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. I have attempted to research these Western knives, of late, and, to be honest with you, the the deeper I dig the more confused I get. When I see a Vietnam used knife for sale that is in mint condition I usually pass. 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. The facts are that the last two years of the war The U.S. was not sending in much of anything into the country as far as manpower and equipment. I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York.   Vietnam   |   English (US)   |   (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. This will differ depending on what options are available for the item. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. 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For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/872513/tp/0/all/1/, http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3218/2432943915_de56f97a16_b.jpg, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/941103-Western-W49-Bowie, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1072453-Western-Bowie-any-info-appreciated. Is it uncommon to come across a Bowie with that "been there and done that" look? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Knife_Company. When Coleman bought Western in 1984, they continued the practice, up through M. When Camillus bought Western from Coleman in 1991, they dropped the practice. Create an account or login in order to post a comment. Stories of Cowboys and Indians and shoot-outs at the O.K. I have spent many hours cruising around here. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. 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Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. Im thinking these must have come from their custom shop. Original Price 6,978,325 14 5/8 inches overall. Boy, I'll say! This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. joe. It is guard marked:WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on the mark side and BOWIE on the pile side. If you don't have an account, create one here. 1964 to late 1965/early 1966. zzyzzogeton, thanks so much for your reply. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Original Price 3,448,276 (45% off), Sale Price 1,952,663 The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. (45% off), Sale Price 3,386,453 (25% off), Sale Price 1,435,714 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am, Post Or am I missing something? (45% off), Sale Price 2,955,665 Average depth of cut with a full swing was about a quarter inch. If the knife has the original leather sheath I expect to see some pretty hard use on that leather. "Leather handled Bowie". The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. Early productions blades were made of carbon steel, later productions are constructed of a high polished stainless. Rare WW11 large Bowie knife made by Jack Soler from Allentown PA was a U.S. Navy Seabee during World War 11. The blade has been sharpened but with care. See the full list: Hotels near Worlds Largest Bowie Knife. Getting back to the subject of Bowies during the Vietnam time period. (60% off), Sale Price 2,807,882 You are using an out of date browser. 1978 was "B" and so on. Who has the knowledge for this situation? $66.55, $121.00 Original Price 3,550,296 My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. . I believe that it provides a fairly accurate chronology of the Western W49 Bowie. See the top reviewed local furniture stores and showrooms in Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, Italy on Houzz. Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. Original Price 1,995,074 (20% off), Sale Price $36.50 Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. As far as a real chopper goes, my W49 out performed my Spyderco/Hossum Forester in side by side testing. Original Price 4,173,456 The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". 1,722,414, 2,460,591 Camillus discontinued the use of date codes. This knife has a stock number of S-649. (70% off), Sale Price $134.97 All items come from a SMOKE-FREE environment! The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. (40% off), Sale Price 2,359,467 The 4th variant also has larger pins. Check out our awesome collection now. Youve done your homework for sure. Even though we were young and we knew every thing. I bought one at a Sheriff's auction about 20 years ago. Frequently bought together + Total price: To see our price, add these items to your cart. Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com. from United States. i still have mine its a hellava knife!! If you are not familiar with that wood, it is in the same class as white oak. Heres mine with box and paper works as well as the original sales receipt from December of 68. It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. In fact in 20 years of service, was never given a Vietnam carried knife. Learn more. The chrome one I own has a replacment sheath made of canvas. But I believe I can give you some good advice. In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. The chrome plated ones were in really nice shape other then some chipping to the chrome and handle wear and maybe minor pitting. $299.99 eBay SUPER RARE KABAR HOBO PERFECT HANDLES KNIFE, FORK, SPOON 1923 TO 1037 $875.00 eBay Case XX USA 10 Dot 1970 5254 Trapper Genuine Stag Handles Unused N Mint Specks $345.00 eBay RARE VINTAGE CASE XX REDBONE SCOUT UTILITY KNIFE 6445 R 1940-64 "NICE!!! The 4th variant also has larger pins. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Original Price 4,876,847 2,422,280, 4,844,560 After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" RARE Vintage Western 2 Blade #691 TRAPPER BONE Handle NICE ! All About Pocket Knives is a knife related resource center for buying, selling, researching, and discussing all things knives, Post Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. Obviously, 1977 on is easy. You are using an out of date browser. The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . I started looking into this subject a couple of years ago. Here is the best that I can find as far as their tang stamping is concerned That's about all I know. C $128.75. Vintage 14 1/2" Western W49 Bowie Knife with Sheath. 2,020,725, 3,367,876 Original Price 6,157,389 This post is reserved to hold future oddballs/commemorative/special editions as they pop up in the future. (39% off), Sale Price 3,722,167 This would provide the best provenance to establishing the exact time periods for these variations on the Western W49 and 649 knifes. I had put together this table that I'm going to post but not sure how it'll show up. (75% off), Sale Price 1,722,414 Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? At least as far as I've been able to determine. If this is the knife I am thinking of (stacked leather handle with a traditional clip style blade) a friend had one when I was younger and as I recall the knife was darn near impossible to get an edge on. I think the pre-Coleman ones - at least some of them - had real Cocobolo handles rather than laminated wood scales. Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. (70% off), Sale Price 3,263,547 Canadianlisted.com, kijiji. Some made in Australia had cast aluminum handles. Looking for a real knife? I hope this helps, Brad? Wow Colonel, that is very special. Original Price 4,962,808 I've been wanting a V44 pattern for years. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. You'll feel like an O Timber Rattler Whispering Winds Bowie Knife 19.98 Timber Rattler captures the beauty of the southwest with this handsome Whispering Winds bowie knife. (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 That makes it a pretty serious chopper in my book. Bowie Knife. My knife has an abbreviated guard that was done by a previous owner and is currently semi-Bagwellized. 1,218,966, 2,216,502 (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 I did some chopping today, on a piece of maple that fell down in a storm a month ago. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. It holds a razor sharp edge and for a knife with a 9 inch blade does a wonderful job. thank joe, Here's a thread on another forum that may help you: http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. So their history is rather murky, to say the least. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . Western didn't seem to keep real accurate records. Charlie, how to identify a Vietnam Western Bowie Fighting Knife, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopiid/872513/tp/1/. Original Price 3,571,429 The appearance of items in the individual listings may vary slightly from the one above. 2,359,467, 4,289,941 We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. Description. It started my knife addiction. Original Price 8,347,245 Original Price 2,958,284 Tweet Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. You must log in or register to reply here. It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. The real surprise to me was the Case Bowie chopping all the way through in fifteen minutes. If it is legible and anyone can fill in any blanks or dispute any of the data, I am receptive to discussion. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Dont see this option? Western made at least two different stock numbered "bowies" during the Vietnam time period. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". Tep. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Sign up for a new account in our community. $84.99, $169.99 (45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 W49, W47, W45 and the W43. (70% off), Sale Price 899,015 Jul 5, 2013. I have never seen an original box & papers for a W49 Bowie. Made in the USA!!! In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. The knife he left us, which bears his name, ranks with the Kentucky rifle and the Colt Peacemaker as an. The letters A through O can be seen on their knives depending upon the year of manufacture during the years '77 to '91. Original Price $185.00 See the weather for Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, IT with the help of our live and local weather cameras. Learn more. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:44 am, Post by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post Inspect in Game. The one I have is chromed on the blade, crossguard and handle pins. Forged from tough 1075 carbon steel, the Undertaker is the largest knife on our list, with a blade length of just over 10 inches, and an overall length of 15.5 inches. I'm confused. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. Original Price 7,118,227 Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? That is really the one question I have about the knife. (20% off), Sale Price 2,370,466 3,263,547, 4,662,315 There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. They made several matching that description, but the most common I see are the 8" G46-8 or L46-8. Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. $123.74, $164.99 The way you set up your knife photos is inspiring. You can see where some of the plating is peeling with age and use. Camillus produced the W49 until 2006. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. In his books, Cole called them the V44 Types 1,2,3,4 (Collins, CaseXX, Western, Kinfolks) and the type 5, the CaseXX Fixed blade V44. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. It didn't have much heft. I am glad that I resisted the SOF mods back in the 80's. I obviously don't know everything about these (or any other Western), just what I've picked up here on BF and other forums, but I think the knives were still being made at Western's Longmont, Colorado factory after Coleman bought the company, so they were being made by the same people on the same equipment using the same materials. Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! Gil Hibben 65TH Anniversary Old West Bowie Knife And Sheath - Stainless Steel Blade, Wooden Handle, Gold-Plated Guard $109.99 $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. 0 CART. Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. Western W49 Bowie Knife - Vintage Bowie From Boulder Colorado CloverTac 14.9K subscribers 5.6K views 4 years ago #TacticalLeprechaun Today let's take a look at a cool vintage Western w49. Late 1800s antique British US Western style Bowie knife marked IXL. Craftsmanship . Vintage Western folding pocket knife. Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. sogmanjoe, Original Price $91.34 They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. Original Price 4,844,560 $86.70, $289.00 Covert Knife. The guard wasn't fitted well. (30% off), Sale Price 3,338,731 The second problem is defining the Vietnam time period for these knives and other equipment. Report an Issue | I didn't really like it so I gave it to my brother. (50% off), Sale Price 1,896,552 If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. (10% off), Sale Price $148.00 Original Price 3,029,557 2,370,466, 4,740,933 1 month ago on ebay.com. But without more evidence to support them the above examples are my recommendation at this time. This Knife is available for immediate purchase by using the Add To Cart button to the right and then by following the instructions. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. First off let me say this forum appears to be populated by some very knowledgeable people and some impressive knife makers. My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. Ridge Runner Whitetail Ridge Bowie Knife $26.99 $9.98! Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 91/4"LONG BLADE,TOTAL KNIFE LENGTH IS 14 1/2", BLADE WIDTH IS 2" & WEIGHS 1# 14 OZ IN SHETH. Original Price 6,896,552 You must log in or register to reply here. Tim-I found out a long time ago, from returning Vietnam veterans, was that they gave away their knives to buddies or indig troops before they left. I don't consider it to be bad. Many a GI bought a Western model at the Base Exchange to use in Vietnam. Original Price $121.00 It's easy! One must handle this knife to appreciate the quality. Original Price $121.68 Captcha failed to load. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. I carry it with me on all my excursions. $75.30, $188.24 This is a great bowie knife that you can get for under $30. Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. I regret not getting one when they were still being made. MERRY CHRISTMAS! I cut the hilt down took some belly off the blade, had a sheath made and for a total investment of $40.00 got a knife that has served me well. Original Price $150.00 Captcha failed to load. The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. The "J" on you knife is a date code. 3,722,167, 4,962,808 hardwood handles,leather sheath. I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. Pics would help to identify the knife. Because of our large inventory (over 10,000 knives in stock), your order will ship quickly - often the same day. 899,015, 2,997,044 I knew your research was fairly extensive and that you had more info than I could ever find in a short timethat's why I linked to your thread from KF. It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. $120.00, $200.00 Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? Large Bowies features excellent stag horn grip with brass pommel and English style brass cross guard. Thick edges annoy me. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They come all sorts of ways. 2,438,424, 4,876,847 UP FOR SALE IS A VINTAGE WESTERN W49-H LARGE BOWIE KNIFE WITH SHEATH. 1978 was "B" and so on.
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