New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, The subreddit for the bat-and-ball sport played between two teams of nine players. He hit .415 (in 107 plate appearances) vs. Greg Maddux, .303 against Tom Glavine (105 PA) and .444 against Smoltz (75 PA). In fact, Maddux saw Gwynn more than anyone. Tony Gwynn: Maddux's Greatest Challenger. We'll be proud to tell our grandchildren we did. And he was proud of that. He batted .381 with a 101 hits and 3 strikeouts. Tony Gwynn, then going on 26 and . But heres probably the most amazing thing: Maddux never struck Gwynn out. Maddux is best known for his accomplishments while playing for the Atlanta Braves and the Chicago Cubs.With the Braves, he won the 1995 World Series over the Cleveland Indians.The first to achieve a number of feats and records, he . Fun/impressive fact: In 107 PAs, Maddux never struck out Tony Gwynn. It dropped to 4.9% in 1993 and was only higher than 5% in one of his remaining seasons (2002). And none of these pitchers ever struck him out: Pedro Martinez (35 AB), Hideo Nomo (25 AB), Mike Hampton (33 AB) or, incredibly, Maddux (in 94 AB). Twins' Balazovic had mouth wired shut after 'sucker punch' f MLB sets up local media group, could broadcast 17 teams, Report: Padres add Odor on minor-league deal, The ultimate, personalized mobile sports experience, 7 Cubs pitchers combine to no-hit Padres in spring game, Red Sox use shift loophole to counter Twins' Gallo, Top plays in World Baseball Classic history, Scherzer tests pitch clock limits, gets quick-pitch balk, Ex-Met Wright: Judge facing 'pressure' with new contract, captaincy. Maddux and Glavine are the first pair of Hall of Fame classmates both to record voting percentages in the 90th percentile since 2007 with Cal Ripken Jr. (98.5) and Tony Gwynn (97.6). Martinez is the current leader with four straight .300-plus seasons. Manny Machado vs Jose Ramirez Comparison. On May 27th, Tony went 4-for-5 against the Braves and lifted his average over .400. Why? Position: Rightfielder Bats: Left Throws: Left 5-11, 185lb (180cm, 83kg) . They were the 307th set of brothers in Major League Baseball history. Related. We cant know for sure how many of the 1986-87 hitters faced a 30 count, but chances are good that the percentage is greater than or equal to his subsequent seasons in Chicago. tony gwynn. In his entire 20-year career, Gwynn struck out 434 times -- an average of 21.7 K's per season. Those 13 walks are the most anyone has drawn. Of course, it's not like Gwynn's numbers against Maddux were an anomaly. See his various events you wish you could of seen. So mind-blowing, in fact, that it seems too good to be true. Cards available for trade are listed below. Wake up to the day's most important news. In other words, the last pitch of the plate appearance came on a 30 count. To find how many hitters faced a 30 count against Greg Maddux, we must look at the row labeled After 30. This brings us to the correct number 644. Since World War II, Gwynn is the only player to bat above .350 in five consecutive seasons (from 1993-97). I agree that Mr. Gwynn was a helluva player, and a great man. His batting average stood at .394 and unfortunately, a run at .400 was one of the things lost when the season was cancelled. How great was Gwynns 1994 season? Gwynn hit below .300 just once in his career, Gwynn struck out less than 20 times in six straight seasons with a career-low 15 times in 1995. Mark Loretta had 208 hits in 2004. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The streak lifted his batting average to .402 as late as July 14th. Bonds is batting .313 (25-for-80) with 13 walks and 13 strikeouts. Maddux is also one of only ten pitchers who has both 300 wins and 3,000 strikeouts. Greg Maddux once explained that you could trick any hitter into not being able to read the speed of a pitch"Except for that fucking Tony Gwynn." G/O Media may get a commission 13% off Players. "Mr Padre" is one of the best and most consistent contact hitters in the history of baseball. In the 14 seasons from 1984 through 1997, Gwynn finished in the top five in the batting race 13 times. *Gwynn never struck out more than 40 times in a season. . Gwynn hit .400 for a stretch as long as a season: from July 3, 1993 to May 9, 1995, he batted .403 over a 179-game stretch. The best memes from Instagram, Facebook, Vine, and Twitter about tony gwynn. . Gross tubs? In 293 of those, the batter walked; 153 were intentional. Gwynn doubled in the first off Greg Brummett (who was making one of his only 13 starts in the major leagues). Gwynn hit a blistering .444 off Smoltz and only struck out once against the hard thrower . But his feats are as amazing today as they were back then. In 2.440 career games, Gwynn struck out twice in a game only 34 times. As mentioned earlier, it is impossible to know. The bad news is they are all in slightly cryptic puzzles. "Tony Gwynn would hit .338 in 2021, '31, '41 Two vs. Glavine. Against Randy Johnson, however, Gwynn slashed .111/.111/.167 for a .278 OPS with no walks and five strikeouts . Gwynn hit a blistering .444 off Smoltz and only struck out once against the hard thrower. Greg Maddux. There are few ballplayers in the history of Major League Baseball that were as skilled in the batters box than Hall of Famer Tony Gwynn, who passed away on Monday. We will see what makes this claim false, what the true number is, and the mistake made by the original creator of the meme. Six times in Padres history has a player recorded 200 hits in a season. Gwynn also had incredible success against many ofthe best strikeout pitchers. But Gwynn got every one of his hits in the National League. From 1991-1999, he struck out more than 20 times once. In the 73 years since Ted Williams last hit .400, all the other hitters who passed through the big leagues -- a group that includes Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Wade Boggs, yadda, yadda, yadda -- combined to do it only eight times. Winner of eight batting titles, Gwynn finished in the top five for the league's best average 13 times from 1984 through 1997. He lives in Michigan where he writes, runs, and enjoys a good orange soda now and again. Gregory Alan Maddux (born April 14, 1966) is an American former professional baseball pitcher who played 23 seasons in Major League Baseball (MLB) for four teams. 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Seven of those 19 times, the batter notched a base hit; the other 12 times, the batter made an out. He is the author of A Complete History of the Major League Baseball Playoffs and has covered the Arizona Diamondbacks for Last Word on Baseball since 2019. (Some versions say 133 instead of 310 and leave out intentional walks.) The next day at home against the Dodgers, Gwynn went 3-for-3 with a pair of doubles off Ismael Valdez. That season came in the middle of a five-year stretch where he batted .369. Only 644 (that we know of; we are missing data for 1,166 batters) saw a 30 count and 153 came on intentional walks. Here comes more. You didn't get Tony Gwynn out, Maddux used to say. Its mind-blowing. Also, right or wrong, bWAR sees Gwynn as an average defensive outfielder. We all know that batting average is not the only way (or even the best way) to measure a hitters effectiveness. He started in 25 games. Gwynn has seven of those seasons . No hitter can tell the difference in speed of different pitches, Maddux told Thomas Boswell, except that goddamned Tony Gwynn.. On Thursday night, the Clippers blew a halftime lead and lost 115-91 to the Golden State Warriors. We kid you not. I read earlier that in 323 combined career PAs against Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, and Pedro Martinez, Gwynn struck out only three times. Heyward has looked good early in spring training, which has led to talk that he is likely to make the, LeBron James took some time this week to send positive thoughts to a veteran NBA reporter while also managing to make it about himself. Ronald Acuna vs Juan Soto Comparison. Only 644 (that we know of; we are missing data for 1,166 batters) saw a 3-0 count and 153 came on intentional walks. In fact, in 1994, Gwynn batted an absurd .397 in two-strike counts. There is also a line called Unknown count there are 321 plate appearances where we dont know what the count was on the final pitch. In 103 plate appearances, Gwynn put the ball in play 93 times and walked 10 times. From 1988 to 2001, Gwynn hit .302 in two-strike counts. One split for pitchers is Count/Balls-Strikes. This shows opposing batter stats in situations that can be grouped into three categories: plate appearances that ended on a certain count, plate appearances that go beyond a certain count, and plate appearances with certain miscellaneous characteristics. That's easily the best mark for any player since numbers were first tracked by count in the mid-1970s. More on Gwynn's lack of strikeouts: He faced some great pitchers, but even the cream of the crop had trouble getting him out. I'd have to do some digging to find the exact players, but assume the best hitters and pitchers among Gwynn's playing cohort. They can identify pitches if there are different release points or if a curveball starts with an upward hump as it leaves the pitcher's hand. Right-handed batters hit worse against righties and left-handed batters hit worse against lefties. He also is a credentialed member of the Diamondbacks press corps for Last Word on Baseball. It occurred on August 4, 1993, against the Giants on a weekday evening at Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego. Gwynn struck out 434 times in 10,232 plate appearances. Before signing with the Atlanta Braves prior to the 1993 season, his lowest walk rate for a season was 6.2% (1991). While most left-handed batters are declining and being rested against southpaws in their twilight years, Gwynn was punishing them. In fact, Maddux saw Gwynn more than anyone. So maybe, if someone like Tony Gwynn arrived in the big leagues tomorrow, we wouldn't value him quite the way we appreciated him in his own time. Born: April 14, 1966 in San Angelo, TX us Draft: Drafted by the Chicago Cubs in the 2nd round of the 1984 MLB June Amateur Draft from Valley HS (Las Vegas, NV).. High School: Valley HS (Las Vegas, NV) Debut: September 2, 1986 (Age 20-141d, 15,231st in major league history) Against Maddux, Tom Glavine, and Smoltz . How other hitters have done in the regular season with Maddux, according to STATS, Inc.: * Barry Bonds has hit six home runs, the most against Maddux. Sadly, we lost Hall of Fame outfielder Tony Gwynn this week to cancer. Greg Maddux has made a habit of handling hitters and even breaking their bats, as he did to five Cleveland Indians in Game 1 of the World Series. A few hitters, however, have had their way with Maddux since he made his major league debut in 1986. J.D. He's shocked. Born: May 9, 1960 in Los Angeles, CA us Died: June 16, 2014 in Poway, CA Buried: Dearborn Memorial Park, Poway, CA . In 1997 he was 37 years old but his bat hadnt slowed down. Regular season data is complete back to 1973, mostly complete back to 1950, and somewhat complete back to 1915. But Gwynn wasnt done showing off his old bat. Wow. Going back to 1961, the first year of expansion, that's far and away the highest average for any hitter with at least 3,000 plate . Gwynn has hit .342 against those elite pitchers, including .364 against those still active and .406 against Atlanta's Tri-Young winners, Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz. Tony Gwynn had 287 plate appearances against Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. No hitter born after 1900 reached 3,000 hits in fewer games (2,284) or at-bats (8,874) than Gywnn. On this date (April 8) in, 1986, Will Clark, a 22-year-old rookie, stepped into the batter's box for his first-ever major league at bat. Tony Gwynn. A popular meme says that out of the 20,421 batters Maddux faced in his career, only 310 saw a 30 count and 177 were intentional walks. He hit .338 for his career. In the 30-plus years that stat has been tracked, the next-best batting average with two strikes is .260 by Wade Boggs, more than 40 points below Gwynns mark. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. He hit .395 in April, .392 in May, .387 in June, and .370 in July. Other Colleges and Conferences. And thanks to statistic hubs like Baseball Reference, some unbelievable numbers are being shared from Gwynn's career. He finished his illustrious Hall of Fame career with a 3.16 ERA, 3,371 strikeouts, 17 Gold Gloves, and one of the best two-seamers ever thrown. A 76 Pitch . Many see 30 count and notice that there are 312 plate appearances (PA) something the original meme creator might have rounded down to 310. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. In 1995 he went 35 games without striking out. Among the 38 pitchers he faced at least 50 times, his lowest average was a .243 mark against Dwight Gooden. Here's Maddux on how he gripped the baseball. He didn't play baseball in an age when men routinely hit .424 or .404. THREE 72 AB vs Smoltz he hit .444 with a .697 slug% and 1 strikeout 99 AB vs Maddux and hit .415 and never struck out. He released his first book, Volume I of A Complete History of the Major League Baseball Playoffs, in October of 2021. *In 323 AB vs. Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, Pedro Martinez and Greg Maddux, Tony Gwynn struck out a total of three times. fun fact: Mark Reynolds struck out 434 times from 09-10. the same amount as Tony struck out in 20 years. * Marquis Grissom, now Madduxs teammate, batted .405 (17-for-42). His streak of 18 consecutive .300 seasons from 1983 until 2000 is only surpassed by Ty Cobb's run of 23 straight years. Thus, naturally, Maddux and his machine-like control generated some truly ridiculous numbers. Combien gagne t il d argent ? 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. April 11, 2020 6:05 AM PT. Despite the fact that Martinez has won 355 games to Maddux's 355, he is still regarded as the game's leader. Greg Maddux got to see that firsthand. It makes sense that great players tend to provide the biggest challenge to other greats. Get the latest news, stats, videos, highlights and more about starting pitcher Greg Maddux on ESPN. Sorry Bronson Arroyo Maddux allowed as many home runs in his first five seasons with the Braves (1156 innings) as Bronson Arroyo did in 2011. If Maddux was the robot of pitchers, then Tony Gwynn is the robot of hitters. Mike Mussina stifled Ken Griffey Jr. Mike Trout Tony Eusebio gives Houston an early lead with an RBI single off Greg Maddux. So, as a result, in 287 plate appearances against Hall of Famers Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz, Gwynn only struck out three times while hitting .381. No Gavin Lux -- big problem. Pro Sports. That's easily the highest average against Maddux for any player with at least 70 plate appearances. Sure enough, while Gwynn and Boggs have nearly equal Offensive RAA according to B-Ref (432/430) and Fangraphs (401.5/399), their contextual offense is much more lopsided, with Tony having a 56/36.8 WPA lead at B-Ref, and a 57.85/36.97 lead at Fangraphs. Amazing strikeout stat No. On Monday, ESPNs Ethan Strauss reminded us about a fantastic quote that Maddux once had about Gwynn that summed up his sensational career. 1994 Quality Starts. Evan Thompson is a member of the Roland Hemond (AZ) Chapter of the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR). During his career, Tony won batting titles by 32 points (1987), 30 points (1984), 28 points (1994), 22 points (1995), and 17 points (1996). MLB: Tony Gwynn y sus increbles nmeros vs Pedro Martnez y Greg Maddux. You gotta figure, to load up the bases the pitcher has already got to be fucking up. He won 18 Gold Gloves, the record for any position. The primary advantage for Gwynn, however, was longevity. 7. Position: Pitcher Bats: Right Throws: Right 6-0, 170lb (183cm, 77kg) . **For the best user experience, we recommend disabling the Reddit redesign. In a high-scoring game, he was back up in the eighth, lining a single to right off Jeff Brantley. Everybody in the stadium is shocked. Yeah, you read that right. My Have List is linked in my signature. . The game went into extra innings and Gwynn singled in the tenth, but the Pads were unable to score the winning run. While others hit (and will continue to hit) for more power, no other hitter in my lifetime has been better at using his bat to get on Greg Maddux faced 20,421 batters in his career. A few moments later, Pedro Martinez (not THAT Pedro, the other Pedro Martinez), laid down a suicide squeeze that scored Ricky Gutierrez with the winning run from third. Bob Gibson et Pedro Martinez et Greg Maddux sont venus vous battre. Regardez le Salaire Mensuel de Npcap Vs Winpcap Wireshark en temps rel. MLB analyst John Smoltz was talking about facing Gwynn, which sent me to Baseball Reference. Registered: Jul 13, 2005. But baseball is a funny game, and so sometimes, a superstar finds Gooden used his fastball and curveball to keep Gwynn off-balance, actually holding Mr. Padre to a .243 mark in 77 matchups while fanning him six times. "When he strikes out swinging," his old hitting coach, Merv Rettenmund, once told me, "the pitcher's shocked. * Andy Van Slyke, now an ESPN announcer, batted .343 (23-for-67) with four home runs and 11 walks. Sithi select. (1915) @Wang Chi on the clock. Across his 23 seasons, he walked 999 hitters. The only season he didn't was 1990, in which he missed the crown by one hit. * Dante Bichette is 1-for-9 and Colorado teammate Vinny Castilla is 0-for-8. Chris Cwik. No 3,000-hit man who was born after 1900 had a higher lifetime batting average than Gwynn (.338). And in the only season he didn't -- in 1990 -- he missed by one hit. In 1994, Gwynn had his best season at the plate. Pete Rose vs Tony Gwynn Comparison. . Greg Maddux, Robin Roberts, Warren Spahn, Orel Hershiser. "Except," Maddux said, "for that [expletive] Tony Gwynn." Gwynn never struck out against Maddux . I'm looking for any Tony Gwynn or Greg Maddux cards that I need. Did you know there were 97 hitters in the big leagues who whiffed at least 20 times just last month? Maddux won four Cy Young awards and ranks as one of the ten greatest pitchers in history. Some NFL teams dont make the grade, players say, New era of football begins at Mater Dei under coach Frank McManus. When it comes to choosing between two of the greatest pitchers of all time, Greg Maddux and Pedro Martinez, there are a number of factors to consider. La plupart des retraits . No surprise, six-time NL batting champion Tony Gwynn is among the best against the four-time Cy Young winner. . For two decades, Tony Gwynn was also the best friend those of us in the media-genius prediction business ever had. You can check out the most watched Tony Gwynn cards of all years currently at auction through the live list below. His first and biggest love is baseball. In 2007, Gwynn was inducted into the Hall of Fame after receiving 532 of 545 votes -- the 10th-highest total in MLB history. Hall of Famer Greg Maddux is one of the greatest pitchers of the Live Ball Era. Rather famously, Gwynn struck out three times in a game only once -- against Bob Welch and the Los Angeles Dodgers in 1986. He hit .400 or better against eight different Cy Young winners -- Greg Maddux, John Smoltz, Bret Saberhagen, Vida Blue, John Denny, Dennis Eckersley, Mark Davis and Doug Drabek -- and batted . Reggie Jackson's Record-breaking Strikeouts If Gwynns 20-year career were split into two careers, 10 seasons apiece, he would rank first and second in franchise history in runs, hits, total bases and doubles. With Maddux it always seemed that batters were either being fooled as they watched a pitch nip the corner of the plate, or they were getting a bad swing on a pitch that dove away from their bat at the last second. Gwynn, a Hall of Famer and 15-time All Star, is one of the greatest pure hitters to ever play the game. ], Get the latest trending sports news daily in your inbox. Tony Gwynn is the greatest pure hitter I have ever witnessed. The baseball world is mourning the loss of Hall of Famer and "Mr. Padre" Tony Gywnn the best way it knows how: by remembering how incredible a player he was. Sometimes hitters can pick up differences in spin. Why was Greg Maddux good? Its really hard to pick a periodin one of Gwynns 20 seasons and say definitively that it was the hottest stretch of his career. From 1992-95, he won four-straight NL Cy Youngs. He was the second batter in the top of the first inning, as his Giants took on the Houston Astros. He had at least two hits in his first five games and hit safely in his first twelve. Press J to jump to the feed. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Do not let the reality fool you this is still nothing short of amazing. In fact, Gwynn owns the top three single-game assist tallies in Aztecs history -- with his 18 dimes against UNLV on Feb. 5, 1980, as the most. If he hadn't let him go, we probably wouldn't have been able to put together all of those great teams from the 90's, andoh. He struck out only three times (two to Glavine, two to Smoltz and NEVER against Maddux or Pedro), per Eric Edholm of Yahoo! On 45 separate occasions, Gwynn recorded four hits in a game -- 11 more times than he recorded a multi-strikeout game. America's Pastime. In the past 100 years, nobody has more batting titles than Gwynn's eight. Thats why he didnt score a lot of runs in comparison to other members of the 3,000 hit club, for example. Evan is the owner and sole contributor of Thompson Talks, a website discussing the Big Four North American Pro Sports as well as soccer. Even against hitters who can hurt them, they rarely change much from how they approach every hitter. Gwynn is a .431 career hitter (25-for-58) against the Atlanta ace. I was actually kind of shocked when I looked up this statistic on the web. He also had the second-most regular-season . He had three different seasons in which he hit .370 or higher. In his entire 20-year career, Gwynn struck out 434 times -- an average of 21.7 K's per season. He played in an era when it was big news if anyone even got within 50 points of that. His 590 career assists are the most in school history and his 221 assists in the 1979-80 season are also a record. In his 20 seasons, Gwynn posted 45 games in which he had at least four hits: 35 with four hits, nine with five hits, and one with six hits.