Average U value- I have tried several times in ResCheck and could never get it to pass with 2x4 construction. The elongated toilet my handyman put in, leaks from the water holding tank. Having spent a lifetime in manufacturing and fabrication, and having the equipment necessary at hand, I spliced another 10 of snake onto the existing snake and still with 60 of snake I have not been able to unplug the drain. "The move up [in lumber prices] was quick and . { 120 comments read them below }kathyWe are looking at a used a trailer that has some iron?/metal apparatus sticking out one end past the skirting area. Should I worry about all of the extra weight added to the roof? RogerIs it impractical to try to take a single wide frame and build from that?PaulI doubt the numbers would pencil out. Anyone wanting to move one of them has to find/buy/rent them. Look through How Your Home Was Built and then go to the mobile home Setup post to see exactly who all the players are. Walls are built using wood boards called studs. You do NOT want to do anything that might weaken them.It would be much cheaper to buy a bed that fits.PaulTammieI was afraid that was the answer I was going to get, lol, thank you for replying, Paul. I appreciate your quick responses. Hes recommending taking the siding off, putting up plywood and then wrapping with Tyvek and putting the siding back. We use Timberstrand headers. The wall we want to remove is 46 long, will this still cause a problem and if so what would be the issue. Any suggestions for me EdPaulHi Edward,Ill have to admit that when looking at older homes I could never see any significant difference between brands.Water damage is the biggest hidden problem. I see, mine are rough sawn and of course old. I can see outside in the worst spots! It plugged up on me and I managed to unplug it with 45 of a 50 snake. You must be a magazine subscriber to access this feature. Any idea why they would have used barnboard then plaster then lath then plaster again and no exterior sheathing? 1939, January 28: Anchorage High School opens at 6th and F Street. Modern mobile home manufacturing plants are marvels of organizational efficiency. Specify 24-inch on-center for 2x6 wall framing rather than 16-inch on-center 2x4 wall framing. I have not tried this either, but it looks easier and should be cheaper.If you choose to go that route I would appreciate hearing back about how it worked out.Paul, DenaPaul, my mother recently purchased an early 80s mobile home and we are looking to expand the two bedrooms to one larger room. When you turn lights on, watch for any flicker.Talk to the neighbors and see if they have any outstanding issues with the park management. I am not looking to sell it, I have owned the property and mobile home for the last 14 years and lived in it for 5 of those years before I moved away. I have a canopy bed and it will not fit!PaulHi Tammie,No.Mobile home ceilings rely heavily on truss construction that provides maximum support with minimal use of materials. At the same time, the plumbing people are installing showers and tubs and the cabinet and mirror people are fastening their things in place. The financing is easier, buyers appreciate quality work, etc.Good luckTiaThank you for your answer. The home is almost worthless if it has be be moved.Especially if you have some handyman skills, many of these problems are not that difficult or expensive to fix. Like the floor, pre-cut studs are laid out on a jig and nailed in place. Quite understand. Common Residential Design Mistakes That Were Actually Built, https://uwaterloo.ca/heritage-resources-centre/sites/ca.heritage-resources-centre/files/uploads/files/heritage_resources_centre_architectural_styles_guide_reduced.pdf, A Proposed Solution to the Embodied Carbon Problem, A Look at State Premiers New Heat Pump Water Heater, Indoor Air Quality and Building Diagnostics. I want to tear all off, metal and tear out floors one end to other but would love some drawings to go off of if you can save me a lot of workPaulHi Jill,If you find any, please let me know. When stretched, the second end is fastened down and then the sides are folded over, caulked and stapled. You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Drop the blocks every six feet or so under the sagging areas. Open a door and measure the distance from the outside edge of the outside trim to the inside edge of the inside trim. I was taught that a parge coat was the cementious rendering applied to the exterior of masonry foundation walls (to reduce groundwater entry) or to the interior of masonry mass walls (to reduce air leakage and water penetration), and finally to the interior of chimneys to improve gas tightness. If you will have to hire all the work done, it will get expensive fast.I hope this doesnt come across as totally negative. I beams and supports are rusted underneath but still solid. Historically the English got their oak from the Baltic, but this changed with the settlement of the colonies - New England had a lot more oak than almost anywhere else. You should ask your builder to get a copy of the Super Good Cents standards. It is the 2x6 stud, usually 8ft long, which are used for framing the exterior walls around the whole house. Whats my best fix short of major construction? Guess which technology was used? Sometimes, depending on the siding that will be applied, the wire is covered with shields to prevent a nail from being driven through it when siding is applied. CasondraThank you so much. This continuous historical price chart for Lumber futures (LB, CME) is part of a huge collection of historical charts that covers decades of North America futures / commodity trading. The function of the OSB sheathing is support for the siding, shear resistance for the 2x4 frame and a contribution to the assembly air tightness. he I exterior walls our made up of 2*2 squares, not the 2+4 studs as we were told.Where can we get the plans on how our Mobile Home was really put together? It sounds like your house was built with attention to air sealing. how the trusses are attached. Oh yeah, its for a light/ceiling fan set up.Thank you!KaraPaulThe manufacturers are very shy about releasing any information. They're commonly used in structural construction projects such as framing walls in a house or building a deck. Insert a straight edge into the gap as far as it will go and note the measurement on the stud framing the door or window. The cost is minimal compared to the benefits. Balloon framed buildings are certainly lighter than those built with the earlier braced frame method, but in my experience, properly constructed, they have survived quite well. You can look at the pdf for wind rules and anything else you might want to see. All this gets us balloon framing. If the grooves are seated properly and care is taken to make sure the panels are lined up before they are nailed in place, the materials themselves produce nice straight edges. Do we see how repairing or replacing a ceiling panel can be a challenge? I know that seems crazy because the prescriptive code states you have to install R-20 in the walls. We simply use 1"x6" lumber to frame around the door. WillPaulYes, I think the weight is getting out of hand and you are asking for more problems.Keep in mind that mobile home manufacturers have engineers on staff full time. From mud huts and megalithic stones to mega highways and skyscrapers, the evolution of construction reflects mankind's ever . Homes built prior to 1976 had only one or two inches of insulation wrapped around the walls, floor and ceiling, 2 x 2 or 2 x 3 studs, uninsulated air ducts in the floor and ceiling, no ceiling vapor barrier, and jalousie windows. To tell you the truth I dont know if it was like this when I got it or not.I tried jacking on the edge of the floors , in one area and it came back,but I was afraid to have all that weight on the floor edge. Lumber . This distance will be a little more than 8 inches if you have 2-by-6-inch framing and a little more than 6 inches if you have 2-by-4-inch framing. I have no affiliation with any product manufacturer and I am not getting paid for this series. Should it be.PaulLeave it the way it came from the factory. ERI- There is a requirement when using the ERI method that mandates you follow the 2009 prescriptive code, no exceptions, which requires R-20 wall cavity or R-5 continuous and R-13 cavity. The water heater and furnace are fastened in place. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. Cavity wall insulation was first introduced during the 1970s, becoming compulsory in the 1990s for all new UK buildings. I was wondering if I could just attach light weight bead board to the 22s (I assume thats whats in there! They can pull the trap a long way before they stop moving. However, I never messed with load bearing walls and cant offer any specific suggestions. It may also be used in areas where extra soundproofing may be needed, such as near a highway. I am hoping to hang something from the ceiling of my 1997 Fleetwood mobile home. It's a good idea to know the size of the framing in your house. Unless some handyman did some really creative work (which is possible) the kitchen drain should connect to the main line by the shortest possible path. The second really big thing was the development of machine made nails. I suspect getting a watertight seal using the approach you describe takes some skill and attention to detail. Examine any unfinished exterior wall in the basement or in a closet and measure the width of the studs. The 2x6 itself costs more, and it costs more for the door frames being a non common size (jambs are typically made for a 2x4 stud wall). when did 2x6 construction start in canada. I basically gutted the interior.I hung drywall on the ceilings and all walls 1/2 aprox. How come they look the way that they do? Batts get pulled to the side so boxes can be installed, they come loose, etc. I WANT to put a sloped tin roof over top of the EPDM wrapped rubber roof that leaks like a sieve but might have to put vertical beams outside to take the weight. On June 15, 1976, HUD established construction and safety standards for mobile homes because they were becoming widely-used as permanent housing. On December 19, 2014 the Government of BC made a revision to the BC Building Code 2012 in order to increase the Energy Efficiency and Ventilation requirements of new homes and renovations and. Spray foam insulation was much easier to incorporate in home construction because it expanded and could . It has been argued that it happened the other way around. I built several homes like that in the 1980s. 2x6 walls are bigger than 2x4 walls. to see if there are any places the floor feels spongy. You will have to have a local A/C person take a look at it to tell you what you are dealing with. The frame wall is undergoing another revolution (okay, it just seems that way because not much has changed in 150 years) a 2x6 frame at 24-inch centers and single top and bottom plates is likely to replace the conventional 2x4 frame. It seems to me the insurance company shouldnt need to know anything else. It may be best for me to install a complete shower kit and be on the safe side. . Bring a light bulb with you so you can be sure it is or isnt a failed switch. There are no doubt multiple ways to meet the standard, none of which the insurance company is qualified to evaluate. Drivers are paid by the mile, so they like to make time. This may be hardboard, metal, or vinyl. The third really big thing was the milling of logs into dimensional pieces of lumber each one the same as the next and the really important part these dimensional pieces of lumber were mass-produced. Was any wind strapping used then? That seemed to signal the end of lumber's roller . Builders sitting on scaffolding, 1920s. Insulation is unrolled between the studs. Guess what the animal dung was for? And the first building papers were not good for water control in any event they were sized rosin paper. Is there? Some builders say that they HAVE to be 2x6 for insulation and strength purposes. Wood floors should not actually be as much of a problem since their weight is spread out and largely supported by the floor joists and main I beams. Trusses are nailed to perimeter 2 x 4s and held in place by wood strips at the centerline and at a couple of other places. (Yeslots of money not wisely spent I knowI knowI knowbut had to live there much longer than planned and I couldnt stand the added depression from living in ugly.) 2x6 construction- $1.00 sq/ft- Insulate with R-21 fibrous material . Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a277ab26c053b50 I would be a little concerned about weight. Older manufactured homes that were built around 1960 and 1970 tend to be built with artificial wood paneling. The barn door replaced the old, hollow-core door to my bathroom. Pay particular attention along the walls and any place there is a roof penetration. A profession repair would have sealed that damage so mice, bugs, cats, or coons dont have easy access to the subfloor area. It was braced in 1 spot before I got it. Artificial Wood Paneling. I would step all around toilets, sinks, windows, doors, etc. 2x6 construction is common in colder climates. Q. The door will weigh approximately 40lbs. JillDo you have any generic blue print style drawings that I can work off of? I was told this happened because of the weight of the drywall.Today I reinforced the exterior perimeter with 44s every 4 feet to maybe help combat this from going further. CathyWe have a 92 Palm Harbor double-wide mobile home. In that case it would have been a delicious irony that balloon framings coming out party was in Paris as an example of American innovation. Thank you.PaulHi Faith,I wouldnt worry about it. Note the weaving of the wattle. I have 1994 16 x 70 Commodore I need to do serious repairs on and looking for specs has been futile. There are plenty of other benefits from building with 2x6 construction, energy just isnt one of them. construction, also called building construction, the techniques and industry involved in the assembly and erection of structures, primarily those used to provide shelter. LocationTampa Bay, Florida, USA. The total difference in cost to build your house with 2x6 exterior construction vs 2x4 is $2,149.90. We might be able to estimate based on the style. Pre-assembled water and sewer lines and the ductwork for heat/AC are dropped in. Alan, This is where knowing exactly who is responsible for what will be essential. Lets look at these 2 options: $3.00 sq/ft- 2x4 construction and use 3 of closed cell foam in the cavity. In April, new housing starts backed off 8% from a 14-year high set in March 2021; however, that level of construction is up 67% from its bottom in April 2020 and up 22% from April 2019. Save Sort by: Oldest worthy 13 years ago Ten percent less lumber (board-footage) and 30 percent fewer pieces. In December, lumber prices hit thier lowest level, falling briefly below the $400 per thousand board feet mark (a key indicator for the market performance of this commodity.) The frame wall is undergoing another revolution (okay, it just seems that way because not much has changed in 150 years) - a 2x6 frame at 24-inch centers and single top and bottom plates is likely to replace the conventional 2x4 frame. I would prefer not to post that kind of personal information, i apologize, I've tried what i can think of, its balloon framed, brick basement walls, made with barn board walls, its the first time i have seen plaster-lath-plaster,barnboard (1.5in thick barnboard), 2x4, (no exterior sheathing) exterior wood siding and vinyl siding (added on top about 10 years ago) I also have an ugly 7 flat ceilings. Very similar! I have a 1986 D/W. It is remarkably solidextremely heavy the movers had said. It started gaining popularity very early in the 20th century. Brian1968 Taylor mobile home at the beach. Diagonal bracing kept the frames from falling over. He still sneaks up on you! Opened the gable and put a 24 24 (3 8 pieces scabbed -held with screws) and screwed the ceiling trusses to the 24 24 -that was placed on edge in the attic for strength. How long has it been since the last rent increase? Although it is more expensive than 2-by-4-inch framing, 2-by-6-inch framing is used for a number of reasons. RexaI want to put up an interior wall to make two rooms from one. Ive had several spots that leaked due to snow on the roof (I live in Iowa and the polar vortex last year wasnt easy on my roof). Where I get concerned is when the weight is concentrated and near the outside walls.Reply.Leslie FayHey Paul! There were trailers for camping and large mobile homes for full-time living. Your addition should totally support itself. The water control function of building paper seemed to have been introduced in the 1930s and even then it was not widespread. During the late 1940s or early 1950s, builders in many areas of North America switched to planed 2x4s that measure 1.5" x 3.5". It is not in good shape, so I am wanting to gut it completely down to its metal shell and studs and remodel the inside completely. Im not sure of the construction but would guess there is nothing solid at that point to lag to. Pry off a piece of interior trim from around the door or a window. We want to install the boards on the ceiling also. Timbers are coated with tar. Water/moisture is the only thing I know that commonly causes problems with mobile home floors. Thanks.PaulThat is probably less weight than a piano, so I think it should be fine. I just recently modeled a 2200 sq/ft house with a 2-car garage, lets call it the McCabe Residence, in the energy modeling software REM Design. I cant imagine who would have plans from 1976. The appliances in it will be covered by their manufacturers warranty. With a cord attached you can pull the trap out and avoid a week or two of really unpleasant aroma.Paul. Construction is an ancient human activity. Mrs. OLearys cow helped. Carpet is installed, windows are caulked, interior doors are hung, etc. I have thought about opening the wall and sister-ing each stud with another 2x 3 board so that the wall will be sturdier. It was fairly common for older wood-framed buildings to have siding installed directly on the studs, without any intervening sheathing. In terms of cavity insulation we are seeing a trend away from fiberglass batts to spray applied systems. In the Scandinavian countries the vertical boards were used to protect timber and log structures from weathering. I would like to put a gun safe in. The standards that must be met depend on where the home will be located. The point where the bottom of the truss rests on top of the ceiling panel is sprayed with a quick setting foam adhesive. We plan to put them along the wall in our living room. Based on these standards, a 6x6-inch nominal lumber board is actually 5 x 5 inches. The manufacturer is not responsible for damage in transit or what happens on the dealers lot. Cavity insulation got a pretty inauspicious start in America as compressed eel grass (Cabots Quilt) at the turn of the last century. Never mind, this will get edited out anyway. The complete source for building, designing, and remodeling green homes. Maybe until the first snow? She is especially concerned about damage to the electical system.PaulI think this is getting beyond what a homeowner should try on their own. Your professional opinion would be greatly appreciated.PaulI think that would be a REALLY big mistake!DwightThanks Paul. Image taken by Frode Inge Helland. The floor of our home seem to be rippling . This was adopted by the various provinces and municipalities in Canada during the next 20 years. When building your dream house, there are various opinions on 2x6 construction. tami hendersonPlease help me. This is the point where some critical management decisions get made. I have been an HVAC installer, insulation company owner, HERS Rater, BPI Building Analyst trainer and energy auditor. (County codes officer already said I can get a building permit if I can get it off the frame, since all else meets code. If your house . No comments to show. Please subscribe to get updates when the next blog is published. Besides, homeowners do so much creative work you couldnt trust the plans in any case.Im afraid you are on your own.Paul, Mike BizzaroAll Im in a Buddy mobile home.There is a nocturnal pest of some sort in the ceiling. There is a really nice discussion of this on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stave_church). It makes me wonder what could be done by someone with a case of caulk who knows what he is doing.The thing is, while the wall construction looks fragile, it did meet HUD standards. Fiberglass batts are R3.5 for every inch, but spray foam . That is a simple payback of 52 years. My question is since I didnt have plywood before, wouldnt the added weight be too much for the frame?PaulIm not qualified to answer your question since I am not an engineer. The ceiling is sized to go from outside edge to outside edge of the house so the edge of the panel rests on the wall. It was not a water control layer. thanks HenryPaulHi Henry,All links seem to point the HUD which is such an enormous organization I got lost trying to find anything useful. Allan, No need to apologize - I wasn't thinking of the privacy implications. If a service technician has to replace it, he has to cut it to fit and probably put down quarter round along all the edges. And for us more progressive folks I see a much greater thickness of exterior insulating sheathing and a hybrid cavity fill an R-50 wall. I would like to knock out 12 of the outside wall to enlarge the living room.
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